Necrotic Obsession

ok so everyone has heard of so called "physic" powers which cover a range of things from:
-telepathy
-telekenisis
-remote viewing
-pyrokenesis
-levitation
-aura viewing
-spontaneous human combustion (that same thing the chick from hellboy had, dont know its proper name)

not too mention a whole variety of other things out there i could be missing. lets assume for all the skeptics out there, that these people can do what they say they can do, and for some reason or another it dosent work with large groups, or television or whatever, but to people in their community and who know the local gossip, they can do it. lets assume these things are possible, the ideas for them and any related articles concerning them and related phenomena have to come from somewhere right?

basically there would be a group that would go around and get volunteers with said abilities and place them all in a nice little community just for freaks like them and you let them breed like pigs and birds or fucking rabbits! YAY!

basically that would ecourage the gene pool to "evolve" or basically take the people with these said abilities and create larger percentage of people who can do this crap.

and the whole idea behind this project is, what is our next step in evolution? are we done evolving? will we further evolve? to energy? to spirits, who knows how we could turn up in the distant future, but right now we have people with supposed abilities that "normal" people dont posses, imho that could very well be the next step of what we could be capable of, and who cares if its not readily scientifically provable at the push of a button, most abilities people were "genetically cleansed" back in the colonial days and called witches because they werent normal and ould do shit nobody else could. well lets bring that shit back to the fore! how long did it take us to go from:
-apes
-to apes with sticks
-to apes with sticks, stones and fire
-to evolved apes with sharp sticks and extra skin from another animal for warmth and protection
-to evolved apes with huts and speech
-to evolved apes who made war on other apes
-to evolved apes who had leaders, partners and religion
-to the evolved man apes that we are today, with buildings, tin cans to move us around, and ways to talk with people halfway around the world

i just wonder what the next step, and if something like this could work

Do you mean like an X-men sort of school?

I think, if there were humans like that, then the X-men movies would be pretty accurate, i.e. the humans without that kind of power would persecute them, and that there would be some mutants that would solve that problem by trying to make humans accept them peacefully, like Xavier's school of thinking, and some mutants that would have no faith in this and seek to enslave/intimidate the non-mutated, like Magneto's school of thinking.

... I love X-men.

That's pyrokinesis, I think. Like in Stephen King's "Firestarter" and as a psychic power in "Galerians" (PS1 video game).

no, not necessarily like an x-school.

im proposing a radical idea, a "breeding ground"
let people who can do this shit, fall in love , fuck, have families with little meta-humans

and to clarify what i consider "meta-human" its what dc comics and marvel comics all refer to their superheros as. not just x-men, who are considered "mutants" because they have an "x-gene, or chromosome" which makes them who they are. everyone else in said comics are aliens, botched science experiments, mystics or whatever, thus a meta-human.

but since modern society has only the tabloids, and skeptical science shows who go around disproving shit and saying how bland, normal and unremarkable the world is, there is no real way to say we have superheroes, or meta-humans in this reality.

however everyone, and i mean just about 95% of any given population somewhere has heard of "mad maggie" or the widow selene, or whoever the local spook is that can do something crazy. crazy like doing something not normal that only she can do, has done repeatedly and effected more than just 1 person with said abilities, they are out there and even if there really is only 1 fucking person out there out of our million, trillion something population, theres somebody that has a special ability to effect their surroundings physically by some means that nobody else can. thats what im saying we could/should/might be interesting to see what pops up do. find these people, put them all together in valley or group home somewhere nice anc comfy, let them breed, increase that population, and like you said learn in a school, or community how to master and responsibly use their powers, abilities what have you.

well hope that wasnt too long, and cleared it up a bit

What I can't help wondering is... (presupposing that it is possible and that meta-humans do somewhere exist)

- what if these meta-humans don't want to be outed, uprooted and forced to breed? Do you mean a voluntary breeding program or an involuntary one? Because it sounds a bit involuntary.

And if such people do exist, somewhere, well, most likely they would not want to be discovered. After all, if meta-humans did exist, they'd probably end up being used as a military weapon of some sort.

And that would probably be unpleasant for the enslaved meta-humans and for whatever unlucky ordinary humans were the target of their psychic weapon.

oh my i broke some law and this thread is in violation of all the laws concerning reality, SUE ME!

and fucking explain yourself, support it and explain why the original topic wont work.

what i proposed is not an "immediate" fix to jump start evolution, its an idea that says get people who arent normal with supposed special abilities and let increase that population base, so that such skills could become more commonin like 1 in 50 people instead of 1 in 5000 people. that sound a little better?




lucifera, it could be either or, forced or voluntary.

in the sake of science, and say some governments did force them into such a program, well then.............i dunno that basically goes against my idea, but it could happen.

lets say some private organization did this, respecting privacy and making it voluntary (but les say for the sake of experimentation EVERYONE did decide to volunteer, and you have a group of people with said abilities that do decide to breed and what not.

and you do have a point, some may not want to volunteer, but when faced with explaining what the project was inteded for maybe they would be more eager/or willing to come out of the woods and not be "freaks" anymore. i mean if i had telekenetic powers and such and had been tormented in school and shit because of it, and was a loner and someone wanted me to "breed" with other like me then id jump at the chance to join others like me and for a piece of loner ass just like myself. adn if they want me to be a weapons or shit the i tell em to sit and spin because hey motherfucker im the freak with powers here so dont fuck with me unless you wanna see you SUV shrink to the size of a grapefruit and what not, and dont forget about all my other firends like me and our kids, thats a whole lotta brain power that someone may not wanna fuck with.

I'm not sure about that...

The way I see it, if there was a mutation found in some humans (an 'x-gene', if you will), that caused 'supernatural'-type powers, and this supernatural ability benefited these carriers over humans without this ability, then it could be selected for through evolution and the inherited ability could be strengthened through selected breeding (whether it would be ethical or not, is another question...).

... Of course, this scenario would require an 'x-gene' to exist first, but that's a different story.

the way i think of it is say you want to have a larger population of people that have say red or black hair and green or red eyes(its happened)

the way i think of it is take all those people that have the desired hair and eye color, that have dominant genes put them together and dont let them have children with people that dont have the desired hair, eye color or not dominant genes. according to my thoughts on this wouldnt this increase the population/group of people and children with the desired hair/eye color?

this is also the way i see it working for people with supposed psionic (psychic) supernatural abilities, whatever. you let the people that have the desired traits have children with people like them and with dominant genes and the amount of people with the desired traits should increase, yes?

i dont claim to know much about linieage, genetic passing of certain genes, and if im wrong, please explain to me a more correct way of how this would work.....

someone release the sentinels the mutants are uprising again!


seriously though i see what you're saying, trying to increase the population of "meta-humans" but that really depends on why they have these powers. Is it just some random genetic mutation? Can it even be passed on to offspring? What if these traits make them sterile? What if it's not even genetics? What if it's say an act of god or some higher power? Is Uatu watching? There's way too many variables, i mean in theory it might work, but then again a small pocket of humans can lead to a concentration of genetic traits, maybe these new breed of meta-humans have far more potent and, dare i say it, self destructive powers. And not only that you have to look far down the line. Do we have a large enough test group for this to work without horrible handicaps down the line? For example tigers that were faced with a decreasing gene pool have begun breeding retardation.

you know that sounds like something hitler would say.

ok whatever, you two please stop it. whether you like it or not, "breeding" is what this is.

now im gonna go on a limb here solo1 and im sure there are numerous ways that this can and will be shot down, but lets look at the historical christian figure of Jesus Christ, according to the bible, he was able to cure the sick with a touch, he could walk on water(ive heard recently that was a saying for actually walking along a shoreline back in those times), did he have control over the elements? if my memory serves correctly he was able to turn a choppy lake to calm waters and then walk out onto it, that cant be explained with walking the shoreline thing. and what about that whole water to wine thing?

fuck im on my lunch and i just got a call, so i have to run and cant wrap this up the way i would like to but, im sure you see what im saying

hey i was being serious, aside from the whole hitler comment. You have alot of variables and factors that you need to address before we can even try to guess what the results would be. How big is this group of individuals? What is the extent of their "powers" ? What is the cause of their powers? Is this a genetic trait or again an act of god?

Perhaps I misunderstand evolution, but I can't see why, potentially, not? - There are animals that have evolved lots of unusual abilities that have given them an edge: electric eels for example have an electric shock for protection that most other fish do not, bats use ecolocation to find moths in the dark, dolphins use sonar (and according to biology textbooks, dolphins evolved from land-dwelling horse mammals that returned to the sea, so the sonar ability must have been a selected-for mutation?), fish have a lateral line that runs down the length of their bodies and allows them to detect other fish using magnetic fields...

All of these unusual abilities are the product of chance mutations selected for by the process of evolution - unless you are suggesting that animal species are a product of a creator's design?

In theory, evolution could throw up chance mutations that could have an edge in the human species also. Isn't that the spice of evolution and... sort of the whole point?

i'm sorry i was under the impression that hitler wanted a pure race, blond hair, blue eyes, i just assumed that a race of super humans would be on his cleansing list with the jews, gypsies, tramps, and thieves. But yeah otherwise i was just trying to make a funny.

wait... i'm confused, what the hell are were you saying and what the hell did i start saying?

I was offering these up as examples of unusual abilities that are the product of evolution. These are all natually occurring, scientifically proven abilities that species have evolved as an advantage to survive. Given that the use of magnetic fields, infra-red vision, and sonar (to name a few) are already occurring in species, 'x-ray vision' and the 'power of flight' are not any stranger.

Since evolution is based on random mutations giving a creature an advantage, I don't understand how you can say that 'no amount of genetic mutation' can give humans unusual abilities that they do not currently have? - To say so, suggests that a species parameters of possibility are already set and that there is no possibility for transition: which would be a problem for the theory of evolution.