Necrotic Obsession

Leonard Peikoff on Abortion is the best 10 minute argument for abortion on the Internet. Dr. Peikoff explains why
pro-abortion is not primarily "pro-choice"; but pro-life. (requires Real Player)

http://www.abortionisprolife.com/

Ok that is gross, but I'm still for abortion. I'd rather have a child if I had the quality of living to be able to support it, unlike a lot of these teenage mothers etc who have hardly even lived their own life, let alone having to be responsible for another.

Not to mention the fact that our world is extremely overpopulated, as it is!

Im anti abortion because I beleive that a baby at any stage is a life and deserves to be respected as such

But yet it's right for those who can not have children see so many lives wasted because some slut doesn't know how to use protection when she opens her legs?
That's like saying *Hey you commited a murder but since they did something wrong to you that's okay! Go on and have a nice day!* Fuck that. A life is a life no matter if it's gotten a chance to breathe yet or not. If a woman throws her newborn in the trash and it dies she gets a murder charge. If a pregnant woamn is struck it'sa child endagerment charge at least and attempted murder if contact is made with her belly. So how is it right to kill the child in the womb?

I'm pro choice: choose to keep the baby, choose to put if up for adopton, or choose to abort it.

What about pregnancies that a ectopic not only is that painful, there is a signifigant risk that the tube will rip open, killing the baby, and causing a severe health issue for the mother. I thought I had that problem (had pains), and planned for it, if the doc told me the baby was stuck in my tube I would have had an abortion. It's better to get rid of one that is already dying, and have an intact uturus for future a pregnancy. Would that make me some slut who didn't keep her legs closed?

People forget these kinds of things when on the subject of abortion. It's easy to say "It's bad" or "It's their right" or "save the babies" but you never know what you will do if you were in a situation where it looks like a good option.

One question, how many people do you know who are pro-life that have adopted children or become foster parents? How many have welcomed a crackbaby, baby with fetal or alcohol or just unwanted child into their home to offer them love and a decent future?

p.s.

I heard some pro-lifers using the term "spontaneous abortion" once. Kinda doesn't help their cause, because, when a woman has a spontaneous abortion, it means she suffered a miscarriage.

Just thought you guys should know in case you hear someone putting the word "spontaneous" in front of "abortion"

If the child is dying or dead then it's a bit different then choosing to have a perfectly healthy and living child shredded to pieces. Abortion is choosing to kill a child inside the womb rather then be responsible for another life. Miscarriages can't really be prevented and aren't a choice. Ectopic pregnancies are usually ended in natural miscarriages if the life of the mother is at risk then it's up to her but if you think abortion is a form of birth control....

Also So you know my Grandmother still fosters and has adopted children with DOWNs, mental retardation, autism, and F.A.S along with perfectly normal children for twenty six years. She just turned 68 years old last June and still has my adopted Aunt Kelly who has a mental handicap that makes her thoughts equal to a five year old even though she's nearly thirty years old still in her home. She also works in a home for children with handicaps as a volunteer. I plan to do the same thing myself when I have a house instead of an apartment. Just because some people don't want the responsibility of a child does not mean that others do not.

No kidding. There are many different reasons and many different types of women that may seek abortion as an option.

I don't really believe personally that abortion should be used like casual birth control (although mistakes and malfunctions of birth control do happen), and it's hard to be definite about it (personally I feel that if it's a matter of continual irresponsible behaviour resulting in multiple abortions, Tubal ligation should be considered, or at least Norplant or something), but...I do support the RIGHT to make the choice, because picking and choosing circumstances and those types of rights can be a slippery slope indeed.

Especially when there are many out there who believe things such as abortions are being performed only on "sluts" who "don't know how to use protection" and "spread their legs". Spread their legs differently than non sluts, I suppose.

I think the George Carlin video that Night Mystic posted a week or so ago also does a pretty good job of explaining the political and ideological nuances to this whole debate.



I chose to have an abortion when I was 17. I wasn't a "slut." And the other women who were there for the same thing that day didn't seem like sluts either. It's a difficult decision to make, and a decision that most women don't make flippantly. "Oh darn, I'm such a slut. I don't have a condom--no worries, I'll just have an abortion!" Sorry, just don't think it happens that way.

You're a woman. Doesn't it make you cringe, calling other women "sluts" like that?

I will apologize to those who made the decision due to birth defects or serious chance of death. however where I come from the only ones that I know personally to have had abortions were...since the word slut seemed to cause distress, extremely casual about it and the number of abortions they had was more of a contest then a serious realization that it wasn't just a problem they were solving but a life they destroyed without thought simply because they didn't want to waste money on protection. So in calling those I have in mind sluts doesn't make me cringe but rather makes me feel that there isn't a word harsh enough to describe them. As is stands I lost a younger sister to difficulties of pregnancy and it could have been avoided if she had had an abortion but it wasn't foreseeable when she was alive. Not due to our collected beliefs but because the cause of her death wasn't related to the infant itself but the people she annoyed by becoming pregnant.
So again I'm not saying all women that made the decision are sluts. I'm talking about the ones that are. Also if you continued reading you would note that I was also talking about abortion from the eyes of current laws about pregnant women and the infants they carry.

I'm sorry to hear about your sister.

Pro-Choice all the way!