Necrotic Obsession

ive experienced what a lot of people say is "sleep paralysis".
but im still not sure what it is.
dont know if its a dream or not when ur half asleep i think and u cant move, sometimes i cant breathe.
is it really the work of spirits or is it all just a dream?
i seriously dont know.

ne of u guys ever experience this "sleep paralysis?"

hmm..
well, the 1st theory might describe just half of what ive been experiencing.
2nd does sound interesting and i do believe in spiritual whatevers for ive encountered several on my own.
just hard to believe that any spirit can really harm u, in this case leave u paralyzed.
which leaves me wondering, perhaps sleep paralysis can result in death (?) if the spirit doesnt fully re-enter the body...

i dunno, one thing for sure, i wont be sleeping on my back for a long time

in fact i do suffer from night terrors...
i just dont know if it was a dream or a ghost.
if i told this, just afraid maybe u guys wudnt believe me.

the first time was when i was sleeping under the covers, i felt someone sitting near my leg as if it was staring at me while i was sleeping. and i cudnt breathe or move for a while.

Second was rather scary. my end of the bed rattled. i seriously thought it was an earthquake, but i cudnt move a bit.
and i was half awake, i saw the lights from outside my window (which was facing my kitchen) at my apartment on. so i knew my housemate was up.
the bed rattled for 10 seconds, i think.
then it stopped. i saw it was around 7am, thought my visions was quite blur.
i think i passed out again.
then i heard a girls voice telling me to wake up. she kept on touching my face, my forehead.
it was really blurry, she had short black hair, but i cudnt see her face, still telling me to wake up.
i cudnt move a single muscle and it came harder n harder to breathe
she suddenly kissed me on the cheek, and the next think i knew she was gone.
looked at the clock and it was still around 7am.

i asked my housemate and she never came into my room that day.

its just freaky, man.
have u ever experienced it?

that's some serious shit, man.
i experienced sleep walking a few times when i was around 9 years old tho i dont remember much of it.
hope ur bros ok, tho.
even if it dont cause death, it still is a scary experience
i do believe its the work of pesky spirits, too real to be a dream.

sage, u say?..... interesting....

I've had several issues with night terrors and sleep paralysis, and mine seem to be serotonin related.

Theres always someTHING watching n bothering me during my sleep.
I may not get it every nite, but i get paranoid all the time which causes sleeping disorders...

Odd that you mention sleep paralysis. I just had an episode the other night. I knew in my dream that I was asleep next to my boyfriend but could not manage to wake him up to wake me up. In my dream it wasnt exactly fear that was the major issue. It was the fact that I tried no matter what to wake myself up but it did not work. I was looking down at myself at one point and another I was myself.

I used to have amazing dreams as a teenager where I would often start out in my own house and float/fly. I would float above my body and know I was asleep and then go through the hall and out the door into another world. One instance that is vivid is me flying through ships that were in the sky.

Another time was me practicing flying with "fellow" vampires. In my dream I had made myself a vampire and was practicing taking off and hiding on walls. It is almost indescribable.

I've had bad ones too. Such as me going through a transformation. Almost being posessed and me screaming and hitting myself to wake up.

My dreams are far and few now, with little interest besides mundane frustrations projecting into my sub-conscious. I almost feel as if I am taking myself out of experience because I don't feel comfortable or that is just not my main concern anymore. I feel as if I am refusing to let go or lose control of myself.

Well like I said, its just odd to me that it should be brought up.

DP because of impatience.

You certainly have done your homework Pyretta, i'm impressed.

excerpt from wikipedia
During REM sleep, the release of certain neurotransmitters is completely suppressed. As a result, motor neurons are not stimulated, a condition known as REM atonia. This prevents dreams from resulting in dangerous movements of the body.

Here is the full article to read at your reference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream

You might be interested in a book called The Joke and it's relation to the unconcious by Freud, I believe that was the title. The work is a bridge so to speak from his research with dreams.

As for the unwanted spirits my friends taught me a few ways to deal with them indirectly. Fill a jar with water and screws (or was it nails?) and place it in front of your door so that the reflection from a lamp casts a reflection of the screws on the wall. Or close your eyes and look towards a light and follow the direction a dark shadow is pointing, or repeat the god or angel chant.

My mother showed me this article one time on belief.net about driving and the motor stimulus affected by the normally dominant left hemisphere of the brain allowing the right hemisphere to drift. I've had those dreams where I thought I was screaming. I would wake up and ask anyone in the house if they heard anything, it is weird. I know a couple of people who talk in their sleep, it isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility that one could gain control of movements with lucid dreaming based upon this theory.

I also think it funny that this is mentioned. I've suffered from both night terrors and sleep paralysis though, tg, not often at the same time. In the night terrors, I'm usually being tortured. The instance I remember most vividly is where I was tied down and someone was running a flame over the sole of my left foot (I am wickedly afraid of fire). I could feel the burning sensation... I tried to scream, but it was silent (often my screams are silent for some reason). I woke up when I jerked so hard that I literally bounced up and hit the ground... HARD. I think sleep paralysis is meant to prevent stuff like that, but I'm grateful for the fact that I wasn't paralyzed.

The last instance I remember of night terror and sleep paralysis combining is when I thought of a joke involving God. It was something I'd never say Irl (I've an abiding respect for God and all deities and don't think they should be mocked). However, in the dream, I thought it was funny and I chuckled to myself and congratulated on telling myself a funny joke. Suddenly, a demonic voice said, in an eerily quiet voice, "Oh, so you think that's funny, do you?" And it was... oh man... The best I can describe it is that it was like I was slowly burning from the inside out. It was... Oh, I was dying. My eyes popped open and I could see my room in the pre-dawn light. I felt a presence just to my left. The voice was talking to me again in a language that wasn't English, but I could understand it. I don't remember what was said. I just kept thinking, "move! MOVE!" I had the urge to turn off my alarm clock, but I couldn't move. I could only move my eyes, which means I couldn't even look around my room fully (and certainly not to my left) to reassure myself that I was alone. I started to pray (in my mind). I could not speak. The fire was consuming me and I knew I was going to die, even though I could see no flames. Suddenly, I could move, the voice and presence disappeared and my body began to cool. It took quite a while for the feeling of burning to wear off completely. It took a while to convince myself it was a dream... It was sooo real. Oh and when I came completely awake, I looked around my room... in the pre-dawn light.

Yeah, I think I was sleeping on my back that night too. I read about this in depth and there are beliefs about certain ethnicities being affected more than others and also one gender versus the other. There are sayings about this in old folk lore, including the one of "a witch riding your back" and the like. Like I said, sometimes I have night terrors and sometimes, sleep paralysis, but thankfully, they rarely blend. Thus, if I have night terrors my body can jerk (and sometimes hurt itself) to wake me up and I can move. Also, if I wake up and can't move, I'm not being tortured and so even though it's still terrifying and I'm scared, I know I'm going to be okay. All I can say is develop a sleep routine, try to have set bedtimes and waking times, and try not to sleep on your back. Also, whatever you do, do NOT eat in the hour or so before going to bed, as this also contributes. Best of luck to ya and if they can't go away, I hope your terrors don't blend with your paralysis.