Necrotic Obsession

I hear so much shit about this band.

"Oh, they're traitors!" and "Oh, they don't do fuckin' black metal anymore"

I love goddamned Cradle of Filth.
Everybody should listen to "Gilded Cunt" and "Absinthe with Faust"

Why are we so determined in classifying shit?

What do YOU guys think of Cradle?

I like them alot, but Danni's screechy voice hurts my head when I turn the music up. Their last cd, Nymphetamine, is actually my fav cd of theirs.

Nymphetamine is my fav too.

I like the song Nymphetamine, but most of their stuff is a bit rough for my taste.

A bit rough? Elaborate please.
I mean, what elements of their music consider them rough?

What I mean, in this context, is that occassionally CoF can become shrill and annoying. Cthulhu Dawn, for instance borders on this. It's almost good, almost bad, I can't place it.

The first track I ever heard by them was "Malice Through The Looking Glass", this was like, six years ago when I first got into black metal.

They were a gateway band to greats like Dimmu Borgir, and others.

Cradle of Filth are still one of my favorite bands, but Dani Filth's vocals are annoying as hell now.

Nymphetamine was a good album. The drums were a LOT more full than on Damnation and a Day. Midian and Dusk and Her Embrace will always be my favorite albums....

i like cradle of filth alot and as far as im concerned if their music is still fucking awesome then why should it matter if people think that they are 'traitors'? i mean, people cant call themselves fans if they decide not to like their music based on what they read. every band evolves over time and that will no doubt reflect in their music. but back to my point, i think they are still a good band so i dont care if they have or have not 'betrayed themselves'

I'm a senior member on the Dimmu Borgir forum.

Every once in a while, a discussion about CoF breaks out, and these freaking tr00bies start saying "Oh they suck, they're not black metal, blah blah".

Cradle are a good band. Wish people would leave them alone

cradle of ilth are a great band and definitly one of my favourites but are not black metal.
And nymphetamine best album what the fuck most mainstream and polished yes.
Midian in my opinionis there best

Well I think they're utter shite.
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Yeah, I really cant find anything great about them. It seems nowadays in order to succeed in metal, you need a "Dark, gothic, grim" gimmick. Maybe Im just not hip enough for you kids.

I'm not a CoF guru, so I would like to know: What did they do to become rejected from hardcore black metal fans?

Voice, all bands have gimmicks nowadays Look hard, and you'll find the gimmicks in every genre. Country it's cowboy hats and appealing to the "heartland" of the USA. Pop it's jumping around and trying to act sexy. Rap it's wearing lots of jewelry and acting "cool".

But you have to ask yourself...is a style all that bad? Bands are a form of entertainment. They are performers. It lets people temporarily escape their real lives. It is up to each person to determine how real or fake they want to believe a band is.

Cradle fuckin rule!!!!! Started black metal but ended up gothic! Always played in the goth clubs i go to! Just like lots of other bands i know of! You have to start somewhere!